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John Rose was born in about 1782 in Mendlesham, Suffolk. He was the son of Robert Rose and Mary Somes. He had one brother that I know of. I  haven’t discovered any other siblings.

I haven’t been able to find his marriage to his wife, Mary (surname?). Their first child, Esther, was born in about 1806. I’ve not been able to find her birth or baptism record. A son, John, was born in about 1809, then another daughter, Rebecca, in about 1814. There may have been children between those dates who died, but no record found yet. Mary Ann Rose was born in about 1815 or 1816. She was the first I found her baptism record for. Depending on which site you access (familysearch or freereg), she was baptised on 2 June 1815 or 2 June 1816. (I guess they had problems reading the last digit.) Another son, Frederick, was born in 1818. He was baptised on 6 December, but died in February, 1819. The last child I know about was Harriet, baptised on 24 September 1820.

The 1841 census for John and his family is very faint, but I can make out that he was a smith, age 60, Mary, his wife, age 50, then two daughters, Mary (it looks like), and Harriet. Listed with them is someone who appears to be 80 years old with the surname Bent (?). I can’t make out the first name.  If anyone can read it, do let me know.

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Perhaps a mother-in-law? They were living in Mendlesham.

Daughters, Esther and Rebecca, had died in 1828 and 1830 respectively.

Of course, in 1851, it was just John and Mary. John, at age 71, was a farmer and innkeeper. Mary was 61, born in Wetheringsett, Suffolk.

John lived another seven years, and died on 23 July 1858 in Mendlesham.

“ROSE John. Effects under £100 22 January. The will of John Rose late of Mendlesham in the county of Suffolk Blacksmith deceased who died 23 July 1858 at Mendlesham aforesaid was proved at Bury St Edmund’s by the oath of John Rose of Mendlesham aforesaid Farmer the Son and the sole Executor.”  (from probatesearch website)

He was buried on 29 July in Mendlesham.

Mary died four years later, and was buried on 13 March 1862.

Sources: findmypast; familysearch; freereg; probatesearch

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Susannah Ford was born on 1 November 1806 in Mendlesham, Suffolk. She was baptised at St Mary the Virgin church in Mendlesham on 16 November.  Her parents were William Ford and Mary Annis.  She had two brothers and a sister that I know of.

As mentioned in the previous post, Susannah married John Rose in Naughton, Suffolk, on 12 September 1831. Why Naughton, I don’t know.  It’s about a four or five hour walk to the south of Mendlesham.

The following year she gave birth to her first son, William, in Mendlesham.  Two years later her daughter, Rebecca, was born.  Then on 19 August 1837 her second son, John, was born, and third son, Frederick, arrived on 14 January 1840.  All four children were listed on the 1841 census. I do not have a birth or baptism date for Rebecca.

Fourth son, Charles, was born on 22 June 1842, then Henry in 1846 (baptised on 6 August). Finally, another girl, Emma, was born on 30 December 1847.

Again, all children are listed in the 1851 census, with the eldest, William, listed as a miller.  In 1861 only Charles, Henry, and Emma are still with Susannah and John, their ages, 18, 15, and 13.  Where were the others?  Rebecca had married Robert Mallet in 1859 and was living in Stowmarket; William had married in 1860 and was living in Framlingham; John junior was visiting his sister in Stowmarket (and would marry Anna Last, who was also a visitor to the Mallet household, later in the month); I’ve not been able to find where Frederick was.

In 1871 the family were still in Back Street in Mendlesham. Susannah’s sons, Frederick and Charles were living with them, Frederick listed as a farmer’s son (at age 31) and Charles, a miller, was already a widower at age 29.  He had married in 1867 but his wife, Zillah, died just two years later. (They had a daughter, Eva Augusta, who appears to be a “visitor”, age 3, to the Howlett family – an elderly woman and her middle-aged daughter, in Norfolk – very strange.)  Frederick never married.  Emma was visiting her sister, Rebecca, in Braintree, Essex.  Henry, listed as a boatmaker, was living in Mendlesham with his wife, Emma, and baby daughter.  John junior, a miller, was also living in Mendlesham with his new wife, Sarah, and baby son (his first wife, and a son, had died).

I’ve given some details of Susannah’s children as I don’t have much information on her at all.  The children all survived to adulthood which seemed rare compared to other families in my family history.  By the time of her death Susannah would have had up to 25 grandchildren!

Susannah died on 23 November 1879.  Her age was given as 71 but it should have been 73.

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Bury & Norwich Post, 2 December 1879

 

Sources: family archives; familysearch; findmypast; freereg; British newspaper archives

 

Sorry, I’ve fallen behind a bit.  This week should be week 30, which I’ll do in a couple of days to catch up.

John Rose was born about 1809 in Mendlesham, Suffolk (an agricultural town) according to census returns. Unfortunately, I’ve been unable to find his birth or baptism at findmypast, freereg or familysearch. His parents were John and Mary. He had five siblings – four sisters and a younger brother.

I know nothing about John and his family until his marriage to Susannah Ford on 12 September 1831 in Naughton, Suffolk, to the south-west of Mendlesham.

By the 1841 census, the couple had four children.  They were living in Market Street, Mendlesham.  John’s occupation was listed simply as ‘smith’ and in White’s directory of 1844 he is listed as a blacksmith. The couple had three more children by the time of the next census.

By 1851 it appears that John went into partnership with John Foster.  As Foster & Rose they were listed as miller, baker, farmer, employing 2 labourers and farming 18 acres.  John Foster was about the same age as John Rose and lived with the family in Back Street, Mendlesham.  John Rose and John Foster are mentioned in a notice in 1843, so I expect their partnership had started some time before 1851.

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In a newspaper article of 1858, John Rose was mentioned in a case of perjury. It’s a fascinating, and confusing, account of John Rose being seen with Emma Ruffles. John was not present at the trial as his family would not allow him to appear in such a “disgraceful transaction”.

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(Twelve months’ hard labour was “mercy” – we could do with such sentences these days.)

The Foster-Rose partnership continued to 1861 (farmer and miller). In the census only the three youngest children are still living in the same house with their parents and John Foster. The farm was 70 acres and they employed 7 men and 3 boys.

John’s younger son, also named John and a miller, fell into financial trouble in 1863. John snr and John Foster were trustees.

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John still had a blacksmith’s shop, which he put up for lease or sale in 1867.

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In 1868 he brought attention to the state of the public road past his farm.

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Suffolk Chronicle…County Express, 21 March 1868

In 1869 John complained about one of his workers who had absented himself without leave. The scanned article was a little blurry so I have transcribed it:

Norfolk News 06 November 1869

Hartismere Petty Sessions

The Petty Sessions were held on Monday last before the Rev. T. L. French, chairman, the Rev. J. F. Reeve, the Rev. Ch. H. Chevallier, the Rev. C. Frere, and J. D. Hustler, Esq.

Robert Rosler, laborer, was summoned by his master, Mr. John Rose, farmer, Mendlesham, for absenting himself without leave, on 28th September last. A sum of 5s. was claimed as compensation. Defendant said: I am a “little” guilty. – The Chairman: I suppose we must take that as a plea of guilty. – Defendant: I asked Mr. Rose to raise my wages. I went to work on the Monday, but I did not see the complainant that day, and I left him on the Tuesday night. I never let myself for any time. I had 9s. per week. On the previous Saturday I told Mr. Rose I shall not work for him any more unless my wages were raised. He said he could not do so, and I told him I must go where I could get more wages. – Complainant said: Defendant engaged himself to me as my servant at so much per week. On the Saturday previous to his absenting himself he said to me, “I should be much obliged to you if you will raise my wages,” but he did not give me notice that he was about to quit my service. He came again on the Monday and left on the Tuesday. – The Chairman: Defendant having commenced work on the Monday he ought, by right, to have completed his contract. – Defendant: I settled with him on the Saturday night. – The Bench ordered defendant to pay the compensation claimed with 10s. costs or in default fourteen days’ imprisonment. Allowed a fortnight to pay it in.

In 1871 the partnership was still going strong with John Foster living with the family in Back Street.  John Foster is listed as being a miller and baker employing 2 men and 1 boy and John Rose is listed as the farmer of 76 acres employing 3 men and 2 boys.

In 1876 there appears to have been a “New Doomsday” (or domesday) about which I can find nothing. However, the two Johns are listed.

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By 1881 things had changed. John’s wife, Susannah, had died and John’s business partner, John Foster, had also died in 1877.  John was in the Brewer’s Arms on the night of the census with his son, Frederick, who was a master miller.  John was now 70 years old but still a farmer of 107 acres employing 3 men and 1 boy.

John died two years later on 17 May 1883. He was buried on 25 May.

ROSE John. Personal Estate £266 13s 4d 19 July. The will with two codicils of John Rose late of Mendlesham in the county of Suffolk Farmer who died 17 May 1883 at Mendlesham was proved at Bury St Edmonds by Robert James Mallett of Mendlesham Farmer and John Hayward of Stowmarket in the said county Gentleman and John Rose of Burgate in the said county Innkeeper the Son the Executors.

The farm was sold three years later.

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Sources: findmypast; Google; midsuffolk.gov.uk; family archives; British newspaper archive

Back to Suffolk, where William Rose was born in Mendlesham to John Rose and Susannah Ford.  He was baptised on 11 March 1832 in Mendlesham.  He was the eldest of seven children (as far as I know) and had four brothers and two sisters.

Mendlesham is a small village in mid-Suffolk of a population of about 1,400.  It used to be a market town.  It was mentioned in the Domesday book in 1086 as Melnessam.  I presume therefore that the name is pronounced “Mendlesam” and not with the sh sound as I had previously thought.

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I would suppose that William was baptised in the church of St Mary, which was founded in 1558.

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In 1841 the family of six were living in Market Street.  This is a Google streetview photo of “Old Market Street”, which I assume is the same street.

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No occupation is recorded for William’s father in the 1841 census.

In 1851 the family of nine were listed as living in Back Street, which, apparently, is Old Market Street (parallel to Front Street).  Living with them was John Foster, a business partner of William’s father who was a miller, baker, and farmer.  William was 19 and working as a miller.

By 1860, William had moved to Framlingham to the south-east of Mendlesham.  He married Mary Ann Mudd at Creeting St Peter (to the south-west of Mendlesham) on 3 April 1860.

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The notice below gives a little more information:

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So William was running a steam mill in Framlingham, and married at his fiancée’s home town.  Here’s a map of the region, showing the three towns.

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Framlingham was also a market town (or village) of about 2000 people, mentioned in the Domesday Book.  It even has a 12th century castle, so has an interesting history.

The couple’s first child, Fanny, was born in 1861, before the next census.  William, Mary Ann, and Fanny, were living in Well Close Square in Framlingham.  It appears to be a short, slightly curved street.

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At the time of the census the family had two visitors – Mary Ann’s mother and older sister.  William was indeed a miller employing two men and two boys.  An apprentice and a servant were included in the census.

Between the 1861 census and 1871, the family had moved to London, where William was a publican in Drury Lane, and then to Henley, back in Suffolk.  By then, the couple had had five more children (three of them boys), but a little girl, named after her mother, had died at the age of one in 1869.  In the 1871 census, William was a master miller, employing one man (who was boarding with them), and the family lived in Debenham Road, in the parish of Henley, with one servant.

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St Peters, Henley, where some of Williams children were christened, and one buried

By 1875, the couple had another three children (including another boy).  In about 1876, the family moved to Sproughton, a village three miles west of Ipswich.

By the next census in 1881, the couple had had yet another three children, all girls, born in Sproughton.  William was a miller, employing three men and one boy.  He lived in Sproughton (no address noted) with Mary Ann and their nine children, and one general servant.

In 1891 the address given was the Mill.  I’m assuming it’s the mill house in Sproughton, a photo of which is below (from Flickr) which straddles the river Gipping.

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It’s now a listed building although it has been converted to residences.  I can’t find any history of the actual building apart from physical descriptions.  William and Mary now had seven children living with them, the older ones having married.  William was a miller and farmer, while his youngest son (age 18) was a miller’s assistant.  There were no servants listed, presumably because the daughters were old enough to help out.  William was now 59 years old.  Altogether, the couple had had 14 children!

William died on 24 February 1893 in Sproughton.  The gravestone says he was 59 years old, but as we know he was 59 in 1891, he should have been 61, which tarries with his birth year.

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The probate read

“ROSE William of Sproughton Suffolk miller and farmer died 24 February 1893 Administration Ipswich 28 April to Mary Ann Rose widow Effects £710 6s”

Sources: Google; findmypast; familysearch; probatesearch; genuki.org.uk; suffolkchurches.co.uk; wikipedia; Mendlesham neighbourhood plan History of the Parish

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