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Only 12 weeks left of this challenge. It has been enormously rewarding.

I’ll now turn to Richard Jones’ wife, Anne Phillips. She was born in about 1792 in Pontesbury. She was baptised on 23 December 1792. Her parents were John Phillips and Mary Rogers. Anne had two sisters – Mary and Jane, and a brother, John, that I know of.

As mentioned in the previous post, Anne married Richard Jones on 11 May 1815 in Pontesbury. I’ll use this post to write details of the children – 13 of them that I can find some information for, but my grandmother’s tree says there were 15.

The first child was Ann. I’m not sure of her exact date of birth but she was baptised on the same day as her sister, Sarah, on 24 August 1817. Estimates of years of birth from census returns are not helpful. For Ann – 1821, and for Sarah 1817, 1818 and 1823. Ann was the eldest daughter (from a death notice). I imagine Sarah was born in 1817 and Ann a year or so beforehand.

Following that confusion, the next children, apparently twins, were William Wall Jones and his sister, Mary, both born on 3 May 1818 and baptised on 3 October 1819.  Another son, Richard, was possibly born in 1822, being baptised on 9 June. His sister, Elizabeth, was born just a couple of months later on 24 August.  Hannah Maria was born on 3 May 1824. Elizabeth and Hannah were baptised on 3 September 1826. Another possible daughter, Margaret, of Castle Place, appears to have been born in July of 1826 but died and was buried in November. I cannot find a baptism for her (so cannot confirm her as a sister), although you’d think she would’ve been baptised at the same time as her older sisters.  Humphrey was the next son, born on 26 August 1828, then John on 23 June 1830, and Timothy on 26 April 1831.  They were all baptised on 16 September 1832. Another daughter, Frances, was born in about 1833 (according to census returns), baptised on 5 April. Last, but not least, was Catherine, born on 27 September 1834, baptised on 12 March 1840. That makes 13 children. Two others (to make the 15 my grandmother claims) could have been Susan, Walter, or Edmund, although I don’t know where I got those names from (it’s been a few years – perhaps from a visit to my great aunt) and I can only find a baptism for Edmund, baptised on 9 April 1836 but in Longnor which is not too far away from Pulverbatch. The reason he is a possibility is that my grandmother mentioned Longnor in the tree. However, none of them are mentioned with family in census returns that I can find (although they could have died as infants or young children), so I will discount them for now.

John died in March 1837, age 7. Humphrey died in August 1837, age 8. A sad year for Anne.

So to the 1841 census where we lose Anne and four children – William, Mary, Elizabeth and Hannah. I’ve not been able to find them, and Jones being a common name, they could be anywhere. The ‘children’ ranged in age from 17 to 23 so could be working or visiting.  The remaining children listed with Richard were Richard, Timothy, Ann, Sarah, Frances, and Catherine. With the family are five servants, one of whom was called John Phillips, the name of Anne’s brother. However, this John Phillips was listed clearly as age 38 and Anne’s brother would have been about 46.  I just found it interesting as Anne’s brother was listed with the family in just about every other census until 1871. Tantalisingly, there is an Ann Jones in Ellesmere in a list of people including John Phillips about the right age. I can only see the transcription of that entry which does not include occupation (unfortunately, they didn’t include relationship in the 1841 census, so the above John could be Anne’s brother with the wrong age). All very confusing.

William married Mary Hotchkiss in 1842. Sadly, Hannah died in 1844.

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Eddowes journal and General Advertiser, 17 July 1844

Elizabeth married Samuel Smith in May 1845 and Richard married Sarah Bromley in July 1845. Elizabeth’s husband died in 1849. Elizabeth then married farmer, Thomas Mansell, in 1851.

So to the 1851 census where Anne and Richard were listed with children Ann, Sarah, Frances and Timothy. I don’t know what happened to Mary. Catherine was visiting her sister, Elizabeth. Anne’s brother, John Phillips, was living with them as an assistant. There were five servants.

Timothy married Eliza Inions in 1853.  Anne never witnessed any further marriages of her children.  She died on 12 August 1857 at Castle Place.

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Such a beautiful memorial card, which I’ve handled reverently most of my life.

Catherine married Richard Powell in 1858. Sadly, Anne’s eldest daughter, Ann, died in 1860, never having married.

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Eddowes journal and General Advertiser, 8 February 1860

Frances was the last to marry – to William Wilkies in 1869, after the death of her father.

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Wellington Journal, 26 June 1869

 

Sources: family archives; findmypast; familysearch; British newspaper archives

Susannah Ford was born on 1 November 1806 in Mendlesham, Suffolk. She was baptised at St Mary the Virgin church in Mendlesham on 16 November.  Her parents were William Ford and Mary Annis.  She had two brothers and a sister that I know of.

As mentioned in the previous post, Susannah married John Rose in Naughton, Suffolk, on 12 September 1831. Why Naughton, I don’t know.  It’s about a four or five hour walk to the south of Mendlesham.

The following year she gave birth to her first son, William, in Mendlesham.  Two years later her daughter, Rebecca, was born.  Then on 19 August 1837 her second son, John, was born, and third son, Frederick, arrived on 14 January 1840.  All four children were listed on the 1841 census. I do not have a birth or baptism date for Rebecca.

Fourth son, Charles, was born on 22 June 1842, then Henry in 1846 (baptised on 6 August). Finally, another girl, Emma, was born on 30 December 1847.

Again, all children are listed in the 1851 census, with the eldest, William, listed as a miller.  In 1861 only Charles, Henry, and Emma are still with Susannah and John, their ages, 18, 15, and 13.  Where were the others?  Rebecca had married Robert Mallet in 1859 and was living in Stowmarket; William had married in 1860 and was living in Framlingham; John junior was visiting his sister in Stowmarket (and would marry Anna Last, who was also a visitor to the Mallet household, later in the month); I’ve not been able to find where Frederick was.

In 1871 the family were still in Back Street in Mendlesham. Susannah’s sons, Frederick and Charles were living with them, Frederick listed as a farmer’s son (at age 31) and Charles, a miller, was already a widower at age 29.  He had married in 1867 but his wife, Zillah, died just two years later. (They had a daughter, Eva Augusta, who appears to be a “visitor”, age 3, to the Howlett family – an elderly woman and her middle-aged daughter, in Norfolk – very strange.)  Frederick never married.  Emma was visiting her sister, Rebecca, in Braintree, Essex.  Henry, listed as a boatmaker, was living in Mendlesham with his wife, Emma, and baby daughter.  John junior, a miller, was also living in Mendlesham with his new wife, Sarah, and baby son (his first wife, and a son, had died).

I’ve given some details of Susannah’s children as I don’t have much information on her at all.  The children all survived to adulthood which seemed rare compared to other families in my family history.  By the time of her death Susannah would have had up to 25 grandchildren!

Susannah died on 23 November 1879.  Her age was given as 71 but it should have been 73.

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Bury & Norwich Post, 2 December 1879

 

Sources: family archives; familysearch; findmypast; freereg; British newspaper archives

 

Halfway through this challenge, and I fear the entries will be shorter, as I have little information on many of the remaining ancestors.

For the sake of continuity, I will turn to Jean, or Jane, Wilson, who was born about 1825 in Glasgow, according to census returns.  I do not know who her parents were.  There are many options available.  Considering that one of Jean’s daughters had the middle name of Rankin, Jean’s mother might have had the surname of Rankin.  However, although there are a few Wilsons married to a Rankin between 1800 and 1809 (and I can’t find any marriages of couples with those surnames after that and before 1825), I can find no Jean or Jane as the daughter of such a union.  With a common name like Wilson, any research could be difficult.

In 1841 there are too many Jean or Jane Wilsons to be sure of finding the correct one, especially with no knowledge of the parents’ names.  Two years later she married Archibald Sutherland.

The first child born was Margaret, born on Christmas Eve, 1845.  In 1848, on 1 June, a son, John, was born, and then in 1850, George.  So, by the 1851 census the couple had three children.  On 16 August 1853, another girl, Jane, was born.  Then, tragically, in 1855, Margaret died.  I found her death listed in the Ayrshire archives #549:

SUTHERLAND, Margaret, female, 9.5 years old, born 18 Parkhouse Lane, Glasgow, 4 years in Glasgow.  Parents: Archibald SUTHERLAND, tailor (journeyman) and Jane SUTHERLAND nee WILSON. Died April 19, 1855 at 148 Drygate Street, Glasgow of Gastric Fever with Anasarca – ill 12 weeks as cert by John McKim, MD. Buried Necropolis, Glasgow as cert by Robert McIntyre, undertaker. Signed John SUTHERLAND, his X mark, grandfather.

I’m not sure what they mean by four years in Glasgow.  Perhaps the parents had just moved to Glasgow, although they were there in 1851 and in 1843, and both were born there.  Perhaps it was just a standard entry after a certain time…?

Three years later, on 27 February, 1858, Elizabeth Rankin was born.  She appears to be the only one with a middle name.  Finally, in 1859, 6 December, Christina was born.

However, in the 1861 census only John, George, Jane and Christina are listed.  Elizabeth died in the interim, and according to scotlandspeople, she died the same year she was born.

As mentioned in the previous post, Jane’s husband died in 1861, leaving Jane with four children between the ages of 2 and 13.

In 1871, Jane was living at the same address as in 1861 – 4 Weaver Street.  She is listed in the census return as a “winder”, still attached to the textile industry.  With her are George, age 20, and Christina, age 11.  I don’t know what happened to Jane.  She would have been about 18 and possibly working elsewhere, or she may have died.  John would have been 23 and may have married.

That’s all I have for Jane. I haven’t found her in the 1881 or 1891 census returns.  She may well  have died, in which case she died young also.  I have some research to do when I get some scotlandspeople credits.

Sources: scotlandspeople, familysearch, family archives

I have fallen behind and have not done family history research for some time.  I now turn to ancestors for whom I have scant information.  My ramblings may be a little confused, as I try to work things out as I write.

Archibald Sutherland was (possibly) born on 1 December 1822 in Glasgow.  He was the son of John Sutherland and Margaret Fisher.  He possibly had an older sister, Margaret, born in 1820, but no mother is listed and John is a common name.  I have no information on other possible siblings.  The source of birth, according to my records, was the IGI, but I have been unable to find it again (I probably found it in the days when I didn’t record sources accurately). A search on scotlandspeople only comes up with two Archibalds, neither of whom had John as their father.  I know his father was named John, as John is listed in two sources connected with Archibald, including the death certificate.  It’s extremely frustrating. The website, familysearch, is next to useless.

I cannot find Archibald in the 1841 census.  However, I can confirm that he married Jean (or Jane) Wilson on 28 April 1843 in Glasgow.

In 1851 and 1861 census returns, Archibald is listed as a journeyman tailor.  In 1851 the family were living at 132, Gallowgate.  In 1861 they were living at 258 High Street in Glasgow. However, the birth year equates to 1824 and in the 1861 census Archibald’s age is given as 37.

Archibald died young, at age 38 in 1861, according to the death certificate.  By December, the family appear to have moved to 4 Weaver Street in Glasgow, where Archibald died.  The death was registered on 3rd December 1861.  So three sources give his birth year as 1824.  Archibald’s birthday must have fallen between the time of the census and the time of his death to account for the age of 37 becoming 38 in the same year so the birth year may have been 1823.

A brief entry.  It is frustrating that I cannot confirm Archibald’s birth or find him in the 1841 census.  When I have some credits on scotlandspeople I will delve deeper, but even searching for names beginning with A, didn’t come up with a suitable result.

 

Sources: scotlandspeople; family archives; findmypast

There probably isn’t much I can add about Gabriel Reeve’s wife, Hannah Wright.  On a family register, a copy of which was sent to me, her birth date is given as 19 January 1825.  However, her baptism of 29 June 1825 at St Clements, Ipswich, gives her birth date as 6 February 1825 in Lower Orwell Street, Ipswich.  So, a discrepancy there.

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Google streetview of St Clements church, Ipswich

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Google streetview of Lower Orwell Street today, not far from St Clements church

I found baptisms for the same day from five of Hannah’s siblings.  Their parents were John and Elizabeth.  Hannah’s older brother was called John Shattock Wright, born 1815 and I subsequently found a likely wedding of John Wright to Elizabeth Shattock in 1808 in Ipswich.  There may well have been other children but as John and Elizabeth are common names, I couldn’t be sure enough of others to add them.  Hannah’s other siblings were Edward Jennings Wright, Caroline, Maria, and William.  Hannah had the middle name of Cooper.  I wonder if those middle names were surnames from the family.  I haven’t gone beyond Hannah’s parents so have no idea.

The first available census was not until 1841 and I cannot find Hannah at all.  She was not living with her parents and younger brother in Bell Lane, so may well have been working in a factory or as a servant at the age of 16.  As the 1841 census does not give the exact place of birth, it’s difficult to identify her from other Hannah Wrights (apart from eliminate those where she is listed as a daughter).  Hannah’s father was listed as a maltster in 1841 and 1851, as well as at Hannah’s wedding in 1846.  (The maltster prepared malt from grain for brewing beer.)

As we know from the previous post, Hannah married Gabriel Benjamin Reeve on 21 September 1846 and had 11 children in total, at least three of whom died young, possibly four.

The eldest daughter, Hannah, married Robert Stammers but I have been unable to find a record of their wedding (but they appear in a census together).  They had three children that I know of.  John Benjamin Reeve married Nina Bell and they had about seven children.  Ruth married Alfred Long and had three children.  Harry Joseph (or Joseph Harry) married Ellen Turner and they had five children.  The youngest of Hannah’s children, Katherine Alice, died at the age of 16.  The second to youngest daughter, Mary Kate, went on to marry my great grandfather, John Rose (and have seven children).

Hannah’s husband died in 1890, leaving £245.

In 1891 Hannah was still living at 9 Orford Street with her daughter, Elizabeth Sarah, and a 60 year old female boarder living on her own means.  Elizabeth Sarah was noted in the 1881 census as being an invalid from birth.  There were four widows as heads of household living in the street in 1891 (out of nine on that page).

I can’t find Hannah in the 1901 census, yet I found a death for her in 1906.  There is no result in the probate search for her, or in newspapers (where women are pretty invisible anyway).

I have yet to obtain her death certificate so have no more information.

The same descendant who sent me a photo of Gabriel also sent me a photo of Hannah.

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She looks a kind soul.

 

Sources:  Google; family archives; findmypast

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I’m having a frustrating time trying to get beyond Richard Powell, born around 1791 in, he says, Bromfield, Shropshire.

I can only find two likely Richard Powells, neither of whom was born or baptised in Bromfield. One was baptised in Clunbury on 23 September 1792, son of William and Mary.  The other was baptised in Chirbury on 8 January 1792, son of John and Sarah.  Which one, if either?  Richard did not name any of his children William or John but he does have a Mary and Sarah (common names anyway).

I searched for any Powells baptised in Bromfield about that time (+- 5 years) and came up with just four:

Jane 15 May 1796, daughter of John and Martha; Joseph 6 October 1793, son of John and Martha; Mary 16 December 1787 daughter of Jeremiah and Martha; Mary 13 January 1788 daughter of Jeremiah and Martha.

This doesn’t really help.

In the 1851 census he has a nephew visiting – a John Rhees.  So he must have had a sister who married a Rhees.  So I searched for a Powell marrying a Rhees (or Rees).  Unfortunately, there are a lot, mostly (as you’d expect) in Wales.  I limited the search to Shropshire and the only likely one is Martha Powell marrying Thomas Reese on 13 December 1807 in St Leonard, Bridgnorth, Shropshire.  Witnesses include Richard Phillips and Elizabeth Jones, names that appear in my family (but no link here).  Tantalising.

I then did a search for the 1841 census for the Reese family but no results for Shropshire.  The only likely candidates were Thomas (a labourer) and Martha Rees born 1791 and 1796 respectively, with a son, John, and two other children but all, apparently, born in Pembrokeshire.  In the 1851 census, John’s birth place is Montgomeryshire and his father is a farmer.  I searched for Thomas and/or Martha in the 1851 census for Pembrokeshire, Montgomeryshire or Shropshire but none of the Thomas’ found were farmers.  There are too many results for other regions.  I tried a few but no luck.  No luck, either, for 1861.

I had a little more luck with finding the death of Richard’s wife, Martha.  The last census I could find her in was the 1871 census (a widow) so I searched for deaths after that and found the burial of Martha Powell, resident of Clun, on 23 August 1873 at Church Pulverbatch, age 82.  Finally.

As for Richard’s death, the last census he appeared in was 1861, therefore he died between 1861 and 1871.  I hadn’t been able to find a death record because there were so many Richard Powells and the two likely records didn’t give any further clue beyond year and quarter.  I, therefore, did a search at probatesearch starting with 1862 and found him listed under 1863, having died on 15 July 1862.

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Thomas Bright was a son-in-law.  Brilliant.  I achieved something.

I’m afraid I have even less information about George’s wife, Jessie (or Janet) Allison.

Jessie was born Janet Simpson Allison on 21 April 1856 at Perth, Perthshire, to George Allison, plumber, and Georgina Patullo (an unusual surname of ancient Scottish origin, it seems).  Jessie was the second child of eight, which included two boys.  While Jessie was born in Perth, the rest of her siblings were born in either Edinburgh or Glasgow.  Were her parents (or her mother) visiting relatives in Perth at the time of Jessie’s birth?  (But both parents were born in Edinburgh.) At some stage the family moved from Edinburgh to Paisley in Renfrewshire (Jessie’s brother was born there in 1859) and then had moved to Glasgow between then and 1861.

In 1861 the family of five were living at 9 William Street in Glasgow.  Nothing remains of what used to be there.  Some huge ugly building straddles the road now.  By 1871 three more children had been born and they were living at the same place.  Jessie and her older sister, Mary, were callender workers (they pressed cloth between heavy rollers) while their younger brother, George, was a baker’s message boy (at the age of 11).

In 1876 Jessie married George Sutherland at 109 Dale Street in Glasgow.  By this time, Jessie’s mother had died, but, strangely, her mother’s name is put down as Jane, maiden surname Wilson on the marriage certificate, but that was George Sutherland’s mother’s name.  Whoever wrote it down has put Jane Wilson for the mothers of both George and Jessie.

By the 1881 census, therefore, the family had split up.  Jessie’s father was a widower boarding with the Strang family; Jessie’s older sister, Mary, had married John Cowie and was living with in-laws, two young sons, and her sister, Georgina ; Jessie and George were living at 86 Hospital Street with a young daughter and Jessie’s two younger brothers.  I’ve been unable to find Jessie’s other three sisters.  Perhaps they died.  One at least, is supposed to have married, but I have been unable to find the marriage record.  That same year, Jessie’s second daughter was born.

By 1891, as mentioned in the previous post, Jessie had four children and they lived in George Street Glasgow.  By 1901 there were six children and they were living in Parson Street.  In 1911 they had moved to Taylor Street.  [Edit: It appears I haven’t mentioned the children’s names and dates of birth particularly. They were: Georgina (1880); Jessie (1881); Margaret (1884); George Archibald (1888); Jeanie (1890); Lizzie (1893); and Effie (1896).]

Since scotlandspeople changed their website to allow free searches, I have been able to find the death of Jessie in 1929 at the age of 73.  At some stage I will find out exactly when.

As I said before, there are many gaps.  I wish I could fill them.

Sources: family archives; familysearch; findmypast

The Scottish side of my family is mostly a closed book to me.  I haven’t done a lot of research in this area, thanks to the monopoly that is scotlandspeople and their payment plans.  I intensely dislike having to pay to look at search results (especially when you don’t know if what you’re looking at is relevant).

Anyway, I’ll outline what I do have in this and some future posts.

George Sutherland was born on 9 November 1850 in Glasgow.  It seems I don’t have a birth certificate so how do I know this?  I obtained the information some years ago before realising the importance of recording resources.  I have it recorded elsewhere, however, that I got it from the IGI but I can’t find anything in my file saying this.  A search on familysearch and findmypast reveal nothing at all.  Thanks, scotlandspeople – thanks for making it impossible to verify or search for Scottish ancestors without paying you.

Regardless, according to census returns, George was born about that time.  He was the son of Archibald Sutherland and Jane Wilson.  According to my information he had a brother and four sisters, at least one of whom died young.

At the time of the 1851 census the family of five were living at 132 Gallowgate in Glasgow.  Any old buildings from that time are long since gone.  George’s father was a tailor.

In 1861 the family of six were living at 258 High Street.  The black-fronted shop below is not numbered, but sits between 260 and 252.  (I don’t know how old these buildings are though.)

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I found this article in the Glasgow Morning Journal.

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14 December 1863

The Sutherland family may have been neighbours.

By the following census in 1871, George’s father was dead.  His widow, Jane, was now head of the household with George and the youngest, Christina.  Jane was just 47 and worked as a winder (someone who winds thread onto the spindles used in shuttles).  George was a cloth lapper (someone who took the cloth from the carding machine and readied it for the next process).  They were now living at 4 Weaver Street (also long gone – the buildings on Weaver Street were cleared after the First World War).

George married Jessie Allison on 24 March 1876 at 109 Dale Street in Glasgow (also long gone).  He was still a cloth lapper (journeyman).  George’s residence at the time was 14 Maitland Street (no longer there) and Jessie lived at 16 Renfrew Street (you guessed it – gone).  So much of Glasgow history has been demolished, and what it’s been replaced with is no prettier.

The couple’s first child (as far as I know) was a daughter, Georgina, born in 1880.  Before the birth of their second daughter, Jessie, in 1881 another census was taken.  The family were living at 86 Hospital Street.  George’s two brothers-in-law were there too.

In 1891 the family of six (with four children under 10) were living in George Street, Glasgow, George still a cloth lapper.  The eldest, Georgina, is no longer with them.  She probably died, unless she was visiting relatives, but I’ve been unable to find her in the census returns, or to find a death record.

By 1901 the family had increased to eight, the children ranging in age from 19 to 6 years old.  They were living at 94 Parson Street.  You can see my earlier post with regard to where they lived then and in 1911.

In 1920, George’s fourth daughter, Jean, left for Australia to get married.  By this time, George had stopped being a cloth lapper and was a warehouseman at the age of 70.

I’m afraid I have no further information on George.  I don’t even know when he died.  I haven’t been able to find a record at all.  There are a lot of gaps.

Postscript: Since writing the above, scotlandspeople has changed their website, making it possible to do a search without paying.  I have confirmed George’s birth date but have been unable to find a death.

 

Sources: family archives; findmypast; Google; http://www.worldthroughthelens.com/family-history/old-occupations.php; http://www.theglasgowstory.com/image/?inum=TGSE00385

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Mary Kate Reeve was born on 8 March 1866 at 15 Alma Terrace in Ipswich, Suffolk (which no longer exists).  She was born to Gabriel Benjamin Reeve and Hannah Wright, one of 11 children (two boys, nine girls: Emma, Hannah, Sarah, Elizabeth Sarah, Emma Maria, Mary Eliza, John Benjamin, Ruth, Harry Joseph, Mary Kate, Katherine Alice).

Mary Kate was five years old by the time the next census came around.  The family were living at 9 Orford Street in Ipswich (Mary with her parents, and siblings: Hannah, Elizabeth Sarah, Ruth, Harry, and Katherine).  Five children weren’t listed in the census;  Emma, who died age two; Mary, who died age three; Emma Maria; Sarah; and John Benjamin.  I found a Benjamin Reeve, aged 12, as a boarder at Christ Hospital School with 14 other boys of similar age.  I know he hadn’t died, as he appeared in subsequent census returns.  Emma Maria might also have died and Sarah could be confused with Elizabeth Sarah (I wish they hadn’t used the same name for subsequent children). Typically, the residential address listed in the 1871 census is now a carpark.  Here is the view down the street from the approximate position.

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Mary’s father was a merchant’s clerk and her older sister a draper’s assistant.

Ipswich, incidentally, is one of England’s oldest towns, or at least the oldest continuously inhabited town, seemingly beginning with a Roman fort.  One of my favourite painters, Thomas Gainsborough lived and worked in Ipswich, and Dickens’ “Pickwick Papers” is set there.  In the nineteenth century, Ipswich was the centre for the making of agricultural machinery and iron and also of brick-making and brewing.

Ten years later, in 1881, the family were still living at the same address.  Mary lived there with her parents, John B, Sarah, and Katherine (so some confusion with Sarah and Elizabeth Sarah).  Her father was a commercial clerk at the iron foundry, as was her brother, John.  Mary was a linen draper’s assistant.  Mary’s older sister, Sarah, was 28 and unemployed, with a note to say that she was an invalid from birth.  Ruth, not listed, was draper’s assistant at a draper manager’s establishment with 40 other workers. Mary’s older sister, Hannah, was by this time, married and living with her husband, Robert Stammers and three children. I was not able to find the others.  I know that Harry or Joseph was still alive as he appears in subsequent census returns.

Mary Kate met John Rose and they married on 20 June 1887 at the parish church of St Matthew’s in Ipswich.  Two years later, the first of six sons, Harold, was born and they moved to Walton-on-the-Naze in Essex. Three more sons were born in quick succession: Edward 1891, Reginald 1893, and Horace Charles 1894.  The last two sons, Alfred and Donald, were born in 1898 and 1901.  Then came two daughters, Madge and Ruth, in 1905 and 1909.

As mentioned in an earlier post, Edward emigrated to Australia in 1911.  When war broke out, Edward, Reg, HC, and possibly the teenage Alfred enlisted.  It must have been hard for Mary Kate to have four of her sons involved.  (Amazingly all survived and went on to marry and start families.)  Only one of Mary’s children remained in Ipswich.

HC moved to Australia in January 1922.  Mary, John, and the two girls left in November that same year aboard the Euripides.

At first I think they lived at Pendle Hill, New South Wales.  In 1935 they were at 28 Cecil Street in Ashfield, then moved to 33 Kenilworth Street in Croydon.  Again, this is the only photo I have of Mary Kate.  Unfortunately, she’s looking down.

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Thanks to a lack of census information and electoral rolls (I could only find one for 1935), I know nothing more, which is sad.  Mary Kate died at home on 24 July 1951 and her remains were cremated.

 

Sources:  findmypast; Google; Wikipedia; information-britain.co.uk; family archives

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I received the death certificate for Thomas – died at age 80 in Northampton of “senile decay”.

I also received the birth certificate of his son, John, who was born in 1845.  Nice to have a firm date instead of “about 1846”.

Not knowing what to do next, I waited until I had membership of the state library to search their British newspaper database.  Unfortunately it’s not the same database as the British Newspaper Archive, which is brilliant.  The search engine for the library database isn’t great so I used the above archive website to search, got details, then tried to find the article on the library newspaper database.  They have a limited number of newspapers which don’t appear to include Suffolk newspapers or such newspapers as the Hampshire or Shropshire Chronicles.  Damn.  Welsh newspapers are useful but only for a handful of ancestors who lived in and around Rhyl.

In the newspapers I searched for Powell (Richard and his children), Kercher, Rose in Mendlesham, and Bromleys.  I found nothing of interest except for Richard P Powell listed as a wine merchant.  While searching for Richard P, I found his mother, Catherine, mentioned in a case of theft from a neighbour.  Luckily this was in a Welsh newspaper, so I retrieved it from the Welsh newspapers online website.

I tried to search for Charlotte and Fanny Bromley, wondering if they were related at all.  Charlotte had a sister but her name was Alice.  I did a search for them on familysearch and found Charlotte and Alice in census returns staying with their grandmother, Maria Deakin.  I figured that was their mother’s mother.  I then found them staying with Mary Meredith.  Husband, John, listed the girls as stepdaughters, so Mary must’ve been their mother, who remarried after the early death of Penry.  The girls also stayed with their uncle, Francis Bromley, who was a farmer.  That was all useful but I still didn’t find anything on Fanny Bromley (to find out who her parents were).

Funnily enough, I remembered there was a Deakin mentioned in my grandmother’s handwritten family tree, so went back and had a look at it… and talk about confusing.  There seem to be Bromleys and Deakins all over the place.  She had a Bromley married to a Deakin who then had Frank, Richard, Edward and Penry.  Well Penry and Frank (Frances) were brothers and a Richard Bromley turns up in the articles about Richard P Powell.  But for Penry, she had the offspring as Dick and Lilian, not Charlotte and Alice.  She also had a Deakin married to a Jones who in turn had Richard Jones, father of Catherine who married Richard Powell.  And Catherine had a brother, Richard, who apparently married a Sarah Bromley.  And if that wasn’t enough, my grandmother’s tree also had a Jones of Upton Magna who had a daughter who married an Edward Bromley (the same Edward as above?).  Oh dear!  I think my next move will be to try and find as much as possible on all the individuals mentioned to see how they tie up.